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PostSubject: Why do the Browns persist with Derek Anderson?   Why do the Browns persist with Derek Anderson? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 03, 2009 8:54 am

I don't understand why Cleveland still persist with Derek Anderson at QB. Both him and Brady Quinn have been terrible this year, in a terrible team, but Brady Quinn has shown his talent at college and in the games he played last year for Cleveland to at least stick with him until they draft/sign another QB if that is their plans.

The only win the Browns have had this year, against the Bills (6-3), Anderson completed 2 passes all game for 17 yards. Unless its in the pouring snow, which even then its possible to get more completions, there is no excuse for a QB doing that. Anderson completed 6 passes this week against the bears. He has thrown 9 interceptions and 2 TD's in 6 games.

I would much rather have a young player like Brady Quinn seeing out the year and then the Browns can decide on their future at QB. Derek Anderson may not play for a great team, but his team isn't overly bad imo. The offensive line is led by a top 3 tackle in Joe Thomas and if it wasn't for the Browns giving up the season by trading away Edwards, his young receivers have plenty of talent.
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PostSubject: Re: Why do the Browns persist with Derek Anderson?   Why do the Browns persist with Derek Anderson? Icon_minitimeTue Nov 03, 2009 9:39 am

brady quinn definitely deserves to be the number one QB plain and simply coz anderson is shit...

as you said quinn has actually shown some skill and anderson is just going under fast
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Anderson had a good 2007 season almost ending a huge playoff drought (If it wasn't for the colts resting their players in week 17 v Titans they probably would have made it) and Anderson earnt his pro-bowl appearance through injuries. He rightfully earnt the starting spot starting of 2008 and deservingly lost it. Since then he's been shit.

Problem is, ESPN reported that Quinn is putting his Ohio home up for sale indicating trade talks are on. Rams could go for someone like Tim Teebow (Stupid) or Sam Bradford in the draft.
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Manning18 wrote:
Anderson had a good 2007 season almost ending a huge playoff drought (If it wasn't for the colts resting their players in week 17 v Titans they probably would have made it) and Anderson earnt his pro-bowl appearance through injuries. He rightfully earnt the starting spot starting of 2008 and deservingly lost it. Since then he's been shit.

Problem is, ESPN reported that Quinn is putting his Ohio home up for sale indicating trade talks are on. Rams could go for someone like Tim Teebow (Stupid) or Sam Bradford in the draft.

You have got to throw Colt McCoy and also Houston's Case Keenum ahead of Tebow and Bradford at the moment.

Also, Quinn should definitely be the starting QB. While both he and Anderson are struggling mightily, at least Quinn is young and should improve, Anderson is a washed up scrub.
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Is Colt McCoy eligible after this year??
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Manning18 wrote:
Is Colt McCoy eligible after this year??

Yeah this is his fourth and last year at Texas. Keenum is in his third season at Houston, but is a Heisman Trophy candidate and if he wins it, could opt to go in the NFL Draft.
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i think they should draft a new qb
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they dont need to... brady quinn has more than enough talent to fulfill the position
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Sparky_Hughes wrote:
Manning18 wrote:
Is Colt McCoy eligible after this year??

Yeah this is his fourth and last year at Texas. Keenum is in his third season at Houston, but is a Heisman Trophy candidate and if he wins it, could opt to go in the NFL Draft.

If that's the case, I'd put him over both Teebow and Bradford, though he does run a little too much. I would like someone like Jake Locker from Washington as well.
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If that's the case, I'd put him over both Teebow and Bradford, though he does run a little too much. I would like someone like Jake Locker from Washington as well.

McCoy doesn't rush as much as Tebow does, plus has the better throwing arm. Bradford you could argue is the pick of the three, but his shoulder injury will definitely hurt his stocks.
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Here's the deal, Mangini is making the Browns bottom out so he can rebuild.

They drafted two promising wide receivers this year (Masaquoi and Robiskie) and jettisoned Edwards to stock up on picks. But benching Brady Quinn serves two goals: protecting him while their personnel sucks, and the biggie... saving money. By keeping Quinn from taking 70% of the team's snaps, they save millions in bonuses on his contract.
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I'd hate to be a Browns fan then. They've been in rebuilding stage for a while now and just when they looked to have come good, they go back to the way it has been the last decade. I wouldn't like putting the future in the 'Mangenius'.
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all i have to say is that the browns suck!!!!
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They could bounce back quite well next season.

Losing Winslow wasn't good, but drafting the two receivers I mentioned earlier plus Joe Thomas and Alex Mack (first-round talent on the O-line) was a good investment. The main problem with Cleveland is their D, and injuries.

I look through their defensive personnel and see a lack of depth. Shaun Rogers is great, Kamerion Wimbley is too. D'Qwell Jackson on IR hurts, because he has been immense. Abram Elam and Brodney Pool are serviceable. Eric Wright, David Veikune and Kaluka Maiava are good prospects, the latter was a steal in the draft. Squat after that.

Here are the positions they need to improve if they want to compete in the AFC: right tackle, tight end, left defensive end, right defensive end, right outside linebacker, cornerback. Add middle linebacker if Veikune or Maiava don't step up.
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Their offense is good bar the QB position. Their defense definately is the problem.

As you said, their O-line has probably the best offensive tackle in the league in Thomas and some good oung talent in Mack. At WR, they drafted Massaquoi and Robiskie which they will look to for the future alongside Chansi Washington. TE would be their 2nd piggest issue on the offensive side.

Shaun Rogers is a top 5 NT and D'Qwell is a solid ILB. The rest of their defense sucks, especially the pass defense. I expect them to draft someone like Eric Berry, Rolando Mclain, Joe Haden or Brandon Spikes to improve the defense.

If they really think that Brady Quinn isn't the answer there a plenty of QBs to develop.
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I doubt they'll go after anyone like Spikes - Veikune cost them a second-rounder, so they're probably hedging their bets on him to go alongside D'Qwell.

Quinn is a big question mark though. Personally, I think he can be a good, but not great, starting QB. The Browns won't be rolling the dice on another first-round prospect for another year at least, giving him a chance to prove if he's legit.
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quinn is named as the starter this week against the ravens
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lets see how he goes
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they tried and he failed
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he did better than i thought he would
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Man, so many sacks and blown routes. You know he's gonna be in trouble when Masaquoi is the team's #1 wide receiver right now. Anything over a 60 QB rating = success imo.
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I really hope a lot of those throws from Quinn were the receivers fault. They were terrible.
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