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ALL BLACKS
1. Wyatt Crockett (2 Tests) 2. Corey Flynn (5) 3. Neemia Tialata (39) 4. Tom Donnelly (3) 5. Anthony Boric (10) 6. Liam Messam (2) 7. Tanerau Latimer (3) 8. Rodney So’oialo (61, captain) 9. Andy Ellis (11) 10. Mike Delany – uncapped 11. Sitiveni Sivivatu (40) 12. Luke McAlister (28) 13. Tamati Ellison – uncapped 14. Ben Smith – uncapped 15. Cory Jane (10)
Reserves: 16. Andrew Hore (45) 17. John Afoa (21) 18. Jason Eaton (15)
19. Richie McCaw (78) 20. Jimmy Cowan (29) 21. Stephen Donald (17)
22. Mils Muliaina (79)

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No Zac! That's bullshit! Although they are using a 'B' side maybe Henry is just resting Zac for the big games against France and England.

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just about to post the team haha

its probably the team most people thought would be named. i thought woodcock would get a run given his suspension last week. hore/mccaw/cowan/muliaina all on the bench, i guess only if were behind they will get a run

look forward to seeing the 3 debutants, delany will rip up i reckon
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Read absent means he'll start against England Sad
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That is probably a good idea though because we want our strongest team to smash England, and that team wouldn't involve starting Rodney. Good to see Jane finally get a run at fullback. Crockett played well last week to probably deserves another shot before they bring back Woodcock for the big games
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top 5 no.8s in NZ

1. Rodney So'oialo
2. Thomas Waldrom
3. Colin Bourke
4. Kieran Read
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Top 5 no.8's in NZ
1. Waldrom
2. Read
3. Bourke
4. Bright
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I really hope Waldrom steps up next year for the Saders, I wouldn't mind him taking over as the ABs 8 over Rodney - Read is just suck a c0ck and I frankly don't rate him as a player whatsoever.
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Hendo Maroon wrote:
No Zac! That's bullshit! Although they are using a 'B' side maybe Henry is just resting Zac for the big games against France and England.

Sivi would have to play pretty poorly for Guildford to take his starting sport for England I think.

He obviously had a very good debut against Wales but Henry's shown a strong preference for experience over youth so far this year.

Unless Sivi has a shocker this weekend, I think he and Jane will see out the tour as our starting wingers.

Probably not a bad thing for the youngster. And he may get another start against the BaaBaas anyway.
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Agree with you there 40/20 - Zac played awesome but hasn't done enough (nor has Sivi done enough wrong) for there to be a changing of the guards.

What I really like is the number of positions that are being genuinely challenged by newcomers over the incumbants and there is genuine competition.

I mean think about it - if everyone was fit and rearing to go - you'd have an arguable 'top' XV of:

1. Woodcock
2. Hore
3. Tialata
4. Thorn
5. Williams
6. Thomson
7. McCaw
8. Read (pains me to do that but as far as the coaches are concerned it's true)
9. Cowan
10. Carter
11. Sivivatu
12. Nonu
13. Smith
14. Jane
15. Muliaina

Then we could take a 2nd XV, replacing every player bar 1 (Cory) who makes a positional change:

1. Crockett
2. Mealamu
3. O. Franks
4. Donnelly
5. Ross
6. Kaino
7. Latimer
8. So'oialo
9. Weepu
10. Donald/Delany
11. Guildford
12. McAlister
13. Kahui
14. Rokocoko/B. Smith
15. Jane

Now comparing those two teams - only Woodcock, McCaw and Carter can truly feel safe in their dominance of their Jerseys. Every other position has a legitimate contender who can swoop at the slightest hint of weakness...
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I really hope Delaney can step up at international level. We need that quality replacement for DC. A decent first five was missing big time in the early test this season. We've got a lot of guys who are pretty good and some young ones that can develop but DC is a mile ahead of any competition, maybe Delaney could close the gap, because Donald definitely couldn't.

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Kick off is at 3:00am Sunday Morning

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yay...zzzz....
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Quite like a 3am kick off. Just watch it with some McDs in hand after a night out on the town.

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lol - good call.

Me? I'll either be sound asleep - or grogilly soothing a howling kid... Sad
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Come on P'Rus. get up and watch it!!

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They invented video recorders for a reason my friend Smile
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Mate Ill be watching the replay in the morning as well. All Blacks End of Year Tour: Game 3 - V Italy Icon_biggrin
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I hate watching things delayed. Live is the only way I reckon. Atleast then you have no chance in finding out the score before hand.

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Yeah - when I video games I have a bad habit of checking the score first to decide if I want to bother - especially do this with the Canes who have a bad habit of failing over in SA Smile
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Italian Team if anyone gives a shit

15 Luke McLean, 14 Kaine Robertson, 13 Gonzalo Canale, 12 Gonzalo Garcia, 11 Mirco Bergamasco, 10 Craig Gower, 9 Tito Tebaldi, 8 Sergio Parisse, 7 Mauro Bergamasco, 6 Alessandro Zanni, 5 Quintin Geldenhuys, 4 Carlo Antonio Del Fava, 3 Martin Castrogiovanni, 2 Leonardo Ghiraldini, 1 Salvatore Perugini.
Replacements: 16 Fabio Ongaro, 17 Ignacio Rouyet, 18 Antonio Pavanello, 19 Simone Favaro, 20 Simon Picone, 21 Kristopher Burton, 22 Alberto Sgarbi
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Anyone know how that compares to the guys who played on the tour to Aus and NZ this year?
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-One change in the front row, Rouyet to the bench, Castrogiovanni in.
-Del Fava starting in 4 came off the bench last time, Geldenhuys shifts to 5, no Bortolami.
-Loose forwards are the same.
-No changes to the backline.

So couple changes on the bench and tight 5 but thats it.

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Should be good then - they were onto it in NZ, despite being tired after 2 games against the Wobblies.
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stiiink game i reckon

AB's taking it 20 - 6
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