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a_F_c wrote:
It may be luck, it may be that we were just better when it came down to it but either way we won all those games which at the end of the day is all that matters surely?

Well look at it this way. There's no way the Patriots should have lost that game. The Jags' could have beaten the Colts on Week 1, they missed the two point conversion to tie. The Texans missed a FG to send the game into OT against the Colts, and blew a huge lead at home in the other. And, then of course on Friday, the Jags' could easily have won that game as well.
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Sparky_Hughes wrote:
a_F_c wrote:
It may be luck, it may be that we were just better when it came down to it but either way we won all those games which at the end of the day is all that matters surely?

Well look at it this way. There's no way the Patriots should have lost that game. The Jags' could have beaten the Colts on Week 1, they missed the two point conversion to tie. The Texans missed a FG to send the game into OT against the Colts, and blew a huge lead at home in the other. And, then of course on Friday, the Jags' could easily have won that game as well.

I agree with you lol but im happy that none of those things happened Razz. Plus in 10 or so years if Indy do go on 16-0 maybe even 19-0 I dont think anyones going to remember a missed 2 point conversion or a missed FG. I think the 4 and 2 will be remembered for a long time though lol, that was the choke of the century Laughing. (thankyou Mr Belichick)
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lets just say the playoffs will be great!!!
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a_F_c wrote:
I agree with you lol but im happy that none of those things happened Razz. Plus in 10 or so years if Indy do go on 16-0 maybe even 19-0 I dont think anyones going to remember a missed 2 point conversion or a missed FG. I think the 4 and 2 will be remembered for a long time though lol, that was the choke of the century Laughing. (thankyou Mr Belichick)

Yeah, you're definitely right about the last few things. Can't argue with that.
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dont see anyone other than the colts winning the season..
undefeated 'til the end...

making me a wealthy ($10 bet placed) happy girl :p
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Senorita wrote:
dont see anyone other than the colts winning the season..
undefeated 'til the end...


making me a wealthy ($10 bet placed) happy girl :p

If they continue to get the luck they've had all season then yes. But the Playoffs are a whole different ball game, and while they'll be the favorites, I can see them slipping up.
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if an afc team doesnt beat them an nfc team will
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u really think its luck? no skill what so ever? pura suerte hmmm i must disagree with u on that..

playoffs wont be too easy but im pretty confident they will get there..
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u really think its luck? no skill what so ever? pura suerte hmmm i must disagree with u on that..

playoffs wont be too easy but im pretty confident they will get there..

Of course it's taken skill. Peyton Manning should win the NFL MVP. But in the close situations of games, you can't tell me the Colts haven't had the rub of the green in all of them. They could easily be 9-5 rather than 14-0.
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sparky is right, it happened to the saints today too...they had many close calls and it finally caught up to them, Colts will be against someone in the playoffs probably SD or Bengals
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Manning has to be the MVP now, which sucks because I was really hoping for the Saints to get that 16-0 mark and Brees to win the award. Hopefully they can bounce back from that setback and win a Super Bowl.
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no doubt Manning will be MVP but you cant help but think Brees is still up there and favre as well...disappointing
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Hank Moody wrote:
no doubt Manning will be MVP but you cant help but think Brees is still up there and favre as well...disappointing

If both the Colts and Saints had gone 16-0, you'd think Manning would have gotten the nod anyway for just being who he is. Unfortunate for the Saints though, going 16-0 would have been a good story, plus ESPN would have kept on bringing up the December chokers the Dallas Cowboys. Not to be.
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I'm sure people in the Gulf Coast region would prefer a Saints victory in the Super Bowl over 16-0 with Brees as MVP. Would be a nice outcome for them.
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I don't see how Favre could be the Most VALUABLE player in the league in the team he is in. No doubt he has been really good and has exceeded expectations, but with a defense of Jared Allen, Pat and Kev Williams and Winfield. Add in the best running back in the league and you whoever is there isn't overly as valuable as Brees or Peyton to their team. If he was still playing for the Jets and was playing like he is now, I would give it to him.
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I don't see how Favre could be the Most VALUABLE player in the league in the team he is in. No doubt he has been really good and has exceeded expectations, but with a defense of Jared Allen, Pat and Kev Williams and Winfield. Add in the best running back in the league and you whoever is there isn't overly as valuable as Brees or Peyton to their team. If he was still playing for the Jets and was playing like he is now, I would give it to him.

Yeah agreed, Manning. The Vikings were tipped to be Superbowl contenders pre-season. Getting Favre was just the tip of the iceberg.
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I don't see how Favre could be the Most VALUABLE player in the league in the team he is in. No doubt he has been really good and has exceeded expectations, but with a defense of Jared Allen, Pat and Kev Williams and Winfield. Add in the best running back in the league and you whoever is there isn't overly as valuable as Brees or Peyton to their team. If he was still playing for the Jets and was playing like he is now, I would give it to him.

apparently not anymore...Chris Johnson is being considered as better...
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CJ has been fantastic all year, irrespective of how badly the guys around him have played. That, in my eyes, makes him more valuable than Brett Favre.
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1st or 2nd, If Peyton had the line, RB and D that Minesota have, 19-0 a long time ago.
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if the guys around CJ were that bad i dont think he would play well...like you know the equation no offensive line, no decent RB. well thats what i read. but then again titans line is the greatest hence the 0 - 7 start of the season
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if the guys around CJ were that bad i dont think he would play well...like you know the equation no offensive line, no decent RB. well thats what i read. but then again titans line is the greatest hence the 0 - 7 start of the season
The Titans do have a quality O-line. But consider that their passing game was absolutely disgraceful, for the most part, until Vince Young got elevated up the depth chart.

So that means CJ was facing a lot of plays where the opposition had 8 men stacked in the box, yet he still racked up big numbers. I don't know about you, but that makes him a legit MVP contender in my book.
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yeah but its stupid, i think they pick players based on team performances/experience...much like australian rugby league rep teams
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CJ should really get MVP.
so often it is a QB because they get the most numbers.

but CJ has been awesome all year. sure he benefited from a crap passing game but it takes a really quality player to rack up the numbers he has.
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much like Manning benefits from the crappy rushing attack
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i think Chris Johnson has been outstanding this year and i doubt anyone will argue with me on that.

peyton has been his brilliant best again but atm i have to rate Johnson higher in the chase for MVP. Ive always like johnson and everyone is starting to believe he is the best back in the game atm. i think with his elevation in the rankings will see him get the MVP award.

favre has been good but can be off his game at times (today for example), brees has been inconsistant at times. And peterson has done well but no where near as good as last year.
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