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PostSubject: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeSun Jan 03, 2010 10:20 am

I'm suprised Hank hadn't made one yet. The games are:

Indianapolis @ Buffallo
New Orleans @ Carolina
Jacksonille @ Cleveland
New England @ Houston
New York Giants @ Minesota
San Francisco @ St Louis
Atlanta @ Tampa Bay
Pittsburgh @ Miami
Chicago @ Detroit
Philadelphia @ Dallas
Kansas City @ Denver
Baltimore @ Oakland
Tenessee @ Seattle
Washington @ San Diego
Green Bay @ Arizona
Cincinnatti @ New York Jets

Bolded games are the game that could possibly determine seedings. Pretty big week to end the regular season, with plsenty of meaningful games. Here are all the clinching scenarios:

NFC
CLINCHED:
New Orleans — South division and homefield advantage.
Minnesota — North division.
Arizona — West division.
Philadelphia — playoff spot.
Green Bay — playoff spot.
Dallas — playoff spot.
ELIMINATED:
Detroit, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Washington, Chicago, Seattle, Carolina, Atlanta, San Francisco, NY Giants.
MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Minnesota clinches a first-round bye:
1) MIN win + PHI loss or tie
2) MIN tie + PHI loss
ARIZONA CARDINALS
Arizona clinches a first-round bye:
1) ARI win + MIN loss + PHI loss
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Philadelphia clinches East division:
1) PHI win or tie
Philadelphia clinches a first-round bye:
1) PHI win
2) PHI tie + MIN loss or tie
DALLAS COWBOYS
Dallas clinches East divison:
1) DAL win
Dallas clinches a first-round bye:
1) DAL win + MIN loss + ARI loss or tie
AFC
CLINCHED:
Indianapolis — South division and homefield advantage.
San Diego — West division and first-round bye.
Cincinnati — North division.
New England — East division.
ELIMINATED:
Cleveland, Kansas City, Oakland, Buffalo, Tennessee.
Baltimore, the Jets, Denver, Pittsburgh and Houston can also make the playoffs if they tie this week with various other things happening. Jacksonville and Miami cannot make the playoffs with a tie.
BALTIMORE RAVENS
Baltimore clinches a playoff spot:
1) BAL win
NEW YORK JETS
NY Jets clinch a playoff spot:
1) NYJ win
DENVER BRONCOS
Denver clinches a playoff spot:
1) DEN win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
2) DEN win + NYJ loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
3) DEN win + NYJ loss or tie + HOU win
4) DEN win + BAL loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
5) DEN win + BAL loss or tie + HOU win
6) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie
7) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
8.) PIT loss + BAL loss + JAC loss or tie + NYJ loss
9) PIT loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie+ NYJ loss
10) NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Pittsburgh clinches a playoff spot:
1) PIT win + HOU loss or tie + NYJ loss or tie
2) PIT win + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
3) PIT win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
HOUSTON TEXANS
Houston clinches a playoff spot:
1) HOU win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
2) HOU win + NYJ loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
3) HOU win + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Jacksonville clinches a playoff spot:
1) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + DEN loss + HOU loss
2) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + DEN loss + NYJ loss
3) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
4) JAC win + PIT loss + DEN loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
5) JAC win + NYJ loss + DEN loss + HOU loss + BAL loss
MIAMI DOLPHINS
Miami clinches a playoff spot:
1) MIA win + NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeSun Jan 03, 2010 10:52 am

Haha I cant even get my head around some of the things that have to happen for teams Laughing.
All I know is that ill sit back tomorrow and enjoy Razz

Expect Indy to hit back against the Bills. Hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeSun Jan 03, 2010 2:29 pm

For mine the Ravens should beat the Raiders, and I think the Bengals will beat the Jets, hence it will come down to the Broncos or Texans getting the last Wild Card spot.

I'm holding hope for my Jags' though, but it's a very, very slim chance.

Would love for it to be the Ravens and Texans anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeSun Jan 03, 2010 8:54 pm

Looks like the colts strategy doesn't look as bad after all. Welker has left the game with a suspected broken leg.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeSun Jan 03, 2010 11:33 pm

Manning18 wrote:

DENVER BRONCOS
Denver clinches a playoff spot:
1) DEN win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
2) DEN win + NYJ loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
3) DEN win + NYJ loss or tie + HOU win
4) DEN win + BAL loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
5) DEN win + BAL loss or tie + HOU win
6) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie
7) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
8.) PIT loss + BAL loss + JAC loss or tie + NYJ loss
9) PIT loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie+ NYJ loss
10) NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie

bolded can no longer happen with Houston and Pittsbugh wins.


Manning18 wrote:

PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Pittsburgh clinches a playoff spot:
1) PIT win + HOU loss or tie + NYJ loss or tie
2) PIT win + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
3) PIT win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
HOUSTON TEXANS
Houston clinches a playoff spot:
1) HOU win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
2) HOU win + NYJ loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
3) HOU win + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

This is the confusing part. I can't see how Pittsburgh needed a Houston loss or tie when they never played eachother this year, have the same record and Pittsburgh has a better divisional record.

Houston are pretty much depending on KC to beat Denver for them to have a chance, then they can hope for Cincinnatti to beat NYJ since I don't see Baltimore losing to Oaklnd.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 12:37 am

Come on need Baltimore and Denver to lose for the Texans to make Wild Card Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 1:46 am

Chris Johnson gets his 2,000 yards in a tight one against Seattle 13-10.

KC ahead of Denver 30-24 where a win could open the door for Houston to get in with a Bengals win.

Baltimore over Oakland right now 21-13, which should get them in the playoffs.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 3:06 am

So all spots in the NFC are final while the AFC depends on this Jets game. The NFC is:

1. Saints (13-3)
2. Vikings (12-4)
3. Cowboys (11-5)
4. Cardinals (10-6)
5. Packers (11-5)
6. Eagles (11-5)

We will see a rematch of todays games in the NFC wildcard round with the Cowboys hosting the Eagles and Cardinals hosting the Packers.

The AFC:

1. Colts (14-2)
2. Chargers (13-3)
3. Bengals/Patriots
4. Bengals/Patriots
5. Ravens/Jets (9-7)
6. Texans/Jets/Ravens

If the Bengals beat the Jets today they will play the 6th seeded Texans, but if they loose they will take the 4th play the Jets again, Either way I see it as a first round elimination for the 6th seed. The Ravens have locked up playoff berth and will play the Patriots next week. Ravens-Pats game is now looking to be much closer with Wes Welker injuring his leg which is a massive blow for this Pats offense which was just getting back into their rythm.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 3:51 am

Lmao. 30-7 to Buffalo.

Meh haha. Manning played 3 series.

Bring on the playoffs Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 6:06 am

I'm amazed at how 3/4 WC playoff games next week were played today
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 8:08 am

Sparky_Hughes wrote:
For mine the Ravens should beat the Raiders, and I think the Bengals will beat the Jets, hence it will come down to the Broncos or Texans getting the last Wild Card spot.

I'm holding hope for my Jags' though, but it's a very, very slim chance.

Would love for it to be the Ravens and Texans anyway.

Well, in the end, the Ravens got one spot, but unfortunately, the Texans missed out after the Jets blew away the Bengals 37-0 in Sunday Night Football. Disappointing for the Texans to miss out, especially as they beat the Patriots today.

I'll have my Ravens hat on come the Playoffs, starting next week.

My Jaguars also ended the season badly, losing 23-10 to the Browns of all teams. To go from 7-5 to 7-9, really disappointing from us. We really should have joined the Ravens or Jets in the Playoffs.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 8:17 am

I can't believe the Bengals lost by so much...and to the Jets!
Oh well, Bengals get a second shot at them come Sunday. Cincy all the way!

3 losses to end the season, the least we say about my phins the better I think Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 8:47 am

liam_bombers wrote:
I can't believe the Bengals lost by so much...and to the Jets!
Oh well, Bengals get a second shot at them come Sunday. Cincy all the way!

3 losses to end the season, the least we say about my phins the better I think Mad

how can you not believe it? If they went all out, and lost they would have exposed themself for the WC game next week.. but they didn't and now they have a fair idea on how to play the jets (due to the game being sudden death for them) and the jets didn't get any better of an idea on how to play the Bengals...Similar to the way Arizona played Green Bay
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 8:56 am

Sly, but good idea by the Bengals and Cards.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 1:20 pm

Pittsburgh Laughing

So the Wildcard matches next weekend are...

AFC - Jets @ Bengals (Sunday 10th February, 8.30am AEDT) and Ravens @ New England (Monday 11th February, 5am AEDT)
NFC - Eagles @ Cowboys (Sunday 10th February, Noon AEDT) and Packers @ Cardinals (Monday 11th February, 8.40am AEDT)

I think the times are correct Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 1:22 pm

Oh, did Pittsburgh not make it? muahahahaha.
lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 1:25 pm

liam_bombers wrote:
Oh, did Pittsburgh not make it? muahahahaha.
lol!

Yeah even if the Jets lost, then Houston would have gotten the Wild Card.
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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 8:46 am

There was a poll a few weeks back asking "Which 6-6 NFL team has the best shot of making the playoffs?"

Only one person picked the New York Jets.


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PostSubject: Re: Week 17 Discussion Thread   Week 17 Discussion Thread Icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 9:12 am

1968vet wrote:
There was a pole a few weeks back asking "Which 6-6 NFL team has the best shot of making the playoffs?"

Only one person picked the New York Jets.

Don't get too cocky though, the Bengals now know how the Jets work.
I am confident the Bengals can win next week and the Jets fans hopes will crash....oh how unfortunate it will be! Razz
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