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PostSubject: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 11:03 am

Might as well have a Manning v Brady debate since the season is over. Its always a pretty even debate between the 2 best QBs of the 2000s.

Discuss.
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 11:28 am

Manning is better statistically but as everyone seems to go on about its the about the superbowl rings
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 2:39 pm

I'm taking Brady, he has the whole package.
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 3:35 pm

I'll take Manning, Brady's decline has already started. Note that both teams don't have spectacular defensive units now - it's really going to put Tom-Tom up against it. Peyton has been consistently winning in spite of a mediocre D for years now.
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 12:48 am

Tom Brady leads his team on game winning drives in the Super Bowl. Manning had one handed to him by a terrible Bears team and then yesterday when it was his chance he threw that pass. Brady wouldn't make that mistake in a Super Bowl
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 9:31 am

Deciding which player is better based on rings is stupid. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have the same amount of rings as Manning, yet are they in the league of Manning? I don't think so.

IMO, Brady has played with a great defense for pretty much his whole career besides this year. He has had the likes of Teddy Bruschi, Richard Seymour, Rodney Harrison, Asante Samuel, etc. All of which were in the top 10 or 5 of their position in their prime. Peyton has had the likes of Sanders and Freeney on defense which is hardly a Top 10 defense when Freeney can struggle v the run and Sanders having major injuries every 2nd year of his career and this year. This is the first year Brady hasn't had the defense to boast about, and he wasn't able to perform like Manning has.

You can talk about Manning only winning 1 SB, choking in the playoffs, not performing in the clutch yesterday etc. but we saw yesterday that teams win Super Bowls, not players. Manning has come short so many times in the playoffs mainly due to the lack of running game to help him in Winter and the lack of defense to stop the run. Its not all because of that, Manning has had some terrible playoff games, but he is one player in basically a mediocre team when you take out 2 or 3 players.

BTW chrishbhs, Brady is human when it comes to super bowls, he wasn't able to come up with the magic drive v NYG in 08'.
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 10:01 am

Manning18 wrote:

BTW chrishbhs, Brady is human when it comes to super bowls, he wasn't able to come up with the magic drive v NYG in 08'.

Tad harsh on that Brady call, Theres a difference between the drive Manning was on yesturday and saying Brady wasn't able to come up with the magic drive in 08'.

Yesturday, Manning had the best part of 5 minutes to drive down to get the game tying score - A far better situation then the 35 seconds Brady had in 08...

Also I think your also for getting the fact that Brady drove his team to the lead in the drive prior to that.
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 10:05 am

Svoerman wrote:
Manning18 wrote:

BTW chrishbhs, Brady is human when it comes to super bowls, he wasn't able to come up with the magic drive v NYG in 08'.

Tad harsh on that Brady call, Theres a difference between the drive Manning was on yesturday and saying Brady wasn't able to come up with the magic drive in 08'.

Yesturday, Manning had the best part of 5 minutes to drive down to get the game tying score - A far better situation then the 35 seconds Brady had in 08...

Also I think your also for getting the fact that Brady drove his team to the lead in the drive prior to that.

You've got some good points there, I just thought it wouldn't be right to say that Brady wouldn't have done what Manning did yesterday. The Colts were down in the fourth quarter 7 times this year and were able to get on top. Its not like Manning completely chokes in the fourth quarter.
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeWed Feb 10, 2010 3:18 am

post season Win Loss records Favre 13 - 11, Manning 9-9, brady 15-3
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PostSubject: Re: Peyton Manning v Tom Brady   Peyton Manning v Tom Brady Icon_minitimeWed Feb 10, 2010 5:13 am

another stat..

The Colts are 23-0 in Regular season games where they go for the win... and 2-2 in playoff games
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