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samthaman15 wrote:
Yea, Cullen - Best Fullback ever, Lomu - Best Wing ever and wilson was one of the best at the time.

lol - I'll wait for mania to come back on and refute that claim Smile
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why who does he think is the best ?
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Certainly not Lomu Smile

Just asked him: "Goldie and BJ Williams"
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Wheres BJ Williams from ?

i think Rupeni Caucau is better than Goldie
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Rupeni was avergae imo, all he had was pace, he didnt have the brains to be a great of the game.
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He was strong Too and wasnt a bad defender. who do you think top5 wings and top 5 fullbacks of all time are ?
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Caucau was a freak - but his head was never, ever in the right place - and you need that to be considered truly the best.

BJ Williams - or Bryan Williams - Kiwi boy - Samoan heritage too.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Fullback Ever   Best Fullback Ever - Page 4 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 22, 2009 3:38 am

1. Jonah Lomu
2. David Campese
3. Rory Underwood
4. Gerald Davies
5. Jeff Wilson

BJ Williams and Chester Williams both just miss out.
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1. Jonah Lomu
2. David Campese
3. Rory Underwood
4. Rupeni Caucau (Only when he was at his best)
5. Jeff Wilson/Bryan Habana/ Joe Rokocoko
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hendo wrote:
Rupeni was avergae imo, all he had was pace, he didnt have the brains to be a great of the game.

d4m hendo and i jus voted for u. nah lomu didnt have brains or skill, when bunce was around lomu was awesome but it was walter little, frank bunce and goldie giving him directions. once they left no one could tell lomu what to do cos he thought he was a senior member

rupeni doesnt have brains but he doesnt need them he's got natural rugby reflexes. power, speed and an awesome step. cant believe u think he was average, he was fricken amazing.

but goldie vs rupeni easily goldie. goldie had speed, skill and brains.

bj williams was an allBlack in the late 70's. he was a freak and took the world by storm in the way cullen did.
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goldie
bj wlliams/david campese
rupeni
kirwin pre 1989

honourable mention to rory under wood and jason robinson
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Lomu not in top 5, that's shocking, nobody has ever had the pace and strength to match Jonah.
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brains beats brawn every day of the week
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mania wrote:
brains beats brawn every day of the week

Haha Laughing Tell that to Mike Catt, I'm sure he has more brains than Lomu.
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ok the thing that really p's me off about lomu is he never bothered learning the game. from when he burst onto the scene till his retirement he never increased his skill level. he always relied on his power but never did he improve himself

with his natural ability he could become the greatest player of all time, but all he did was try his crash and bash. lomu quit looking for work when he moved to wellington
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I suppose that's a fair call, he didn't look to improve himself and relied on his natural ability, but his natural ability is what made him the beast, he deserves to be on the top 5 wingers just from that natural ability.
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I really wonder how much kudos he would've got if '95 didn't happen with him and he started in 96...
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PostSubject: Re: Best Fullback Ever   Best Fullback Ever - Page 4 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 22, 2009 4:43 am

Not nearly as much, 1995 WC is where he made a name for himself, that's where he became the first rugby superstar.
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Yea and pretty much everyone in the world knew him
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yeah he exploded onto the world stage in 95 and that would've been a huge surprise attack on especially england. ok jonah is a great player, but wouldnt make my top 5, top 10 maybe.

though cr where cr is due. on the world stage jonqah was great. at home and in triNations he was luggage

when he played NHemisphere teams he was fearsome, but neither of the triNations teams were that worried. In Chester Williams book they said they never devised any special defenses or even spoke about jonah in their team talks, they were always worried about goldie and cullen.

jonah never scored a try against the boks
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It was notable in the 95 WC that the Boks completely nullified Jonah's power...
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yeah he exploded onto the world stage in 95 and that would've been a huge surprise attack on especially england. ok jonah is a great player, but wouldnt make my top 5, top 10 maybe.

though cr where cr is due. on the world stage jonqah was great. at home and in triNations he was luggage

when he played NHemisphere teams he was fearsome, but neither of the triNations teams were that worried. In Chester Williams book they said they never devised any special defenses or even spoke about jonah in their team talks, they were always worried about goldie and cullen.

jonah never scored a try against the boks

What do you mean he didnt score a try i saw him score atleast one and in one he was pushing like 5 of them backwards for like 2o meters!
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Not against the boks
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Yea it was i remember it clearly look it up on youtube.lol
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samthaman15 wrote:
Yea it was i remember it clearly look it up on youtube.lol

No he didnt score a try against the Boks

He played 12 games against them without scoring a try.

He probably off loaded at the last moment to Josh Kronfeld.
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