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PostSubject: Re: 2010/11: College Football Thread   2010/11: College Football Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 10, 2010 3:28 pm

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Shit's gonna hit the fan if Alabama don't drop below TCU and Boise State. As Lou Holtz said on BSPN today, it would go against the argument of the BCS apologists: "we don't need playoffs because we already have a playoff, it's called the season."

Alabama were comprehensively defeated, ergo they have to drop. Based on strength of schedule, they can work their way back up if they return to winning ways. But until then, the undefeated teams deserve top billing. You can only beat the teams you're scheduled to play against; you shouldn't have to beat ignorant, biased voters too.

EDIT: I'll give props to LSU for beating the Gators on the road. Terrence Toliver had a hell of a game; that winning touchdown catch was a hell of a play. No wonder he's sky-high on a lot of draft boards. Michigan State and Florida State deserve a shout-out too.

Oh, and was great to see the Golden Bears flog UCLA. Shane Vereen is fantastic.

Yeah if Alabama are still top five, then it's a joke. Teams like Boise State, TCU and Nebraska plus even Auburn and Oklahoma deserve to be ahead of the Crimson Tide.

Alabama will need to win the SEC Championship, then hope two of Oregon, Nebraska or Ohio State lose, plus possibly Oklahoma as well. You'd think Boise State and TCU going undefeated would stay ahead of Alabama for the time being.

Can't wait for tomorrow's rankings.
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It would be a huge miscarriage of justice if Alabama were voted into the national title game, ala the Gators politicking their way above Michigan in the 2006 season. Another factor we have to be mindful of is South Carolina. Their only loss is to undefeated Auburn; but Alabama slump by default if the Gamecocks lose any more games. Or at least they should, but who knows how the monkeys that vote think?

Here's what I think of the current crop of undefeated teams...

Michigan State - just notched up a huge win at highly-fancied Michigan. Could they remain undefeated? Probably not, the road game at Iowa could be their undoing.

Ohio State - their games at Iowa and Wisconsin will be huge. And let's not forget that rivalry game against the Wolverines at the end of the seaosn. They've knocked off 1 legitimate team so far, but if they roll through their schedule, they're a lock for #1.

Nebraska - big games up ahead: Texas, at Oklahoma State and Missouri are on tap in their next three fixtures. They could easily lose one and drop.

Missouri - with Oklahoma and Nebraska up ahead, I see them having a tough time of it. With that being said, they're a good team and could come up trumps in both. Wins there would look great for the voters.

Oklahoma State - their two most difficult fixtures (Oklahoma, Nebraska) are at home. I actually like State to end up in the top 10 this season.

Oklahoma - they let Air Force and Cincinnati get a bit too close for comfort. Their luck will probably run out at Missouri.

Oregon - probably the favourites alongside Ohio State. There are a couple of potential mines they could step on yet, but not a nightmare schedule by any means.

TCU - naysayers moan that they're blowing out bad teams. Sure. But the success of Air Force and Utah play into their hands. That game at the Utes will be pivotal.

Utah - see above, and alter accordingly.

LSU - with that win at Florida, I won't dare say LSU can't run the table. And if they do... the voters will have a real headache.

Auburn - two massive home games coming up, then an away trip to Alabama looming. LSU will probably be the biggest test, in my opinion.

Nevada - their offense is great. However, I don't see them toppling Boise State.

Boise State - they look good for an undefeated season. If that happens, expect the debate within college football to be more vocal than ever.

If you made me predict the #1-2 ranked teams, I'd lean toward Oregon-LSU. With that being said, it's a stiff call, no matter how you slice it. BRING ON PLAYOFFS!
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AP Poll: Week 6

Ohio State are the new #1, a week before the first BCS rankings are released!

1. Ohio State (34 1st place votes)
2. Oregon (15)
3. Boise State (8)
4. TCU (1)
5. Nebraska
6. Oklahoma (2)
7. Auburn
8. Alabama
9. LSU
10. South Carolina
11. Utah
12. Arkansas
13. Michigan State
14. Stanford
15. Iowa
16. Florida State
17. Arizona
18. Wisconsin
19. Nevada
20. Oklahoma State
21. Missouri
22. Florida
23. Air Force
24. Oregon State
25. West Virginia

Dropped from rankings: Miami (FL) 13, Michigan 18

Others receiving votes: Michigan 137, Miami (FL) 63, North Carolina State 31, Virginia Tech 17, Northwestern 5, Texas 5, Kansas State 1
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Although Ohio State is the No. 1 ranked team, they're not the consensus pick as the best team in the country. While they had the most 1st place votes with 34, Oregon had 15, Boise State 8, TCU 1 and Oklahoma had 2.

Also, I read an interesting piece on Fox Sports and one of the BCS experts thinks that next week, if the top five or six were all to win, due to having the strongest schedule thus far, Boise State would probably be the No. 1 ranked team in the country. However, as the season progresses, if the teams from stronger Conferences continue to win, then the Broncos would slowly be overtaken.
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At least common sense has prevailed with Alabama.
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At least common sense has prevailed with Alabama.

Yep, no doubt. Had they been ahead of Boise State or TCU or even Oklahoma or Auburn for that matter, the Poll would have been a joke. Now 'Bame have got to earn their way back up the rankings and I've got no doubts they can do that. Although, the SEC is arguably the strongest Conference in College Football so no doubt it'll be tough.
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James Rodgers done for season

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/14348/rodgers-done-for-season

Sad news for the Beavers, the Rodgers brothers along with a developing QB in Ryan Katz would have been a very interesting prospect the rest of the season.
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Honestly, the last two days all that has interested me is everything College Football. I've been reading anything from ESPN, Yahoo! Sports, CBS, SI (Sports Illustrated) even the bloody Bleacher Report in regards to the upcoming BCS Rankings this weekend and also the system in general (that gets talked about EVERY year) and everything in between including who is the best team in College Football at this minute. To me it's simply fascinating reading, I can't get enough of it. South Carolina's win over Alabama last weekend really has thrown a spanner in the works and it's definitely been a good thing.

Also, I don't think I've discussed it but according to multiple websites, if the top seven were all to win this weekend (minus Oregon who has a bye), then it seems Boise State would be the No. 1 ranked team in the country in the first BCS Rankings. Don't know how well that would go down with most pundits, but considering their wins over Virginia Tech and Oregon State, it's not really a surprise and obviously if the big Conference teams keep winning (Ohio State, Oregon, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Auburn and Michigan State) then they'll eventually eclipse the Broncos and also the Horned Frogs.

To me this is all just gripping stuff and why I absolutely am loving College Football. Fantastic product.
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Yeah its interesting stuff.
Good for Boise if they are ranked 1, to me they seem to be getting the rough end of the stick with their 'weaker schedule'. Not that im not denying their schedule is comparatively weaker.
Obviously it cant happen midseason and maybe not even next year but is there anyway they can move into a stronger conference?
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Yeah its interesting stuff.
Good for Boise if they are ranked 1, to me they seem to be getting the rough end of the stick with their 'weaker schedule'. Not that im not denying their schedule is comparatively weaker.
Obviously it cant happen midseason and maybe not even next year but is there anyway they can move into a stronger conference?

Well they're moving to the MWC next season, however BYU is leaving the MWC and so is Utah (who is going to the PAC-10) so it'll be them and TCU then no one else. I'm not too sure if they had to opportunity to move to the PAC-10, but if they did then they should have taken that opportunity as the question from all the doubters is that in a BCS Conference, they'd lose at least one game per season.
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I read an interesting piece on Fox Sports and one of the BCS experts thinks that next week, if the top five or six were all to win, due to having the strongest schedule thus far, Boise State would probably be the No. 1 ranked team in the country.
Yeah, the guys on BSPN mentioned this. It seems that 5/6 of the computers that crunch the numbers are public, and they have Boise State ranked #1. Assuming that the next week of fixtures provides no major surprises, you'll probably see the top 3 shuffle: Boise State ---> Ohio State ---> Oregon.
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Yeah, the guys on BSPN mentioned this. It seems that 5/6 of the computers that crunch the numbers are public, and they have Boise State ranked #1. Assuming that the next week of fixtures provides no major surprises, you'll probably see the top 3 shuffle: Boise State ---> Ohio State ---> Oregon.

Yeah, think you're right.

That Ohio State @ Wisconsin game is going to be a cracker. Real danger game for the Buckeyes.
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So... Nebraska and Ohio State were knocked off this weekend. We're going to see a big shuffle in the rankings, with Oregon perhaps set to have the most to gain.
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Well what a MASSIVE weekend of College Football it was. I haven't been able to get onto a computer since Friday, but no doubt was watching on TV on Sunday and following on my phone as to the results and what was going on.

There was upsets galore on Sunday as a host of Top 25 teams went down. It started at the top as new AP Poll No. 1 Ohio State went down 31-18 to a very good Wisconsin Badgers team. No. 5 Nebraska was stunned 20-13 by Texas despite QB Garrett Gilbert going 4-16 and 64 yards although rushing for 2 TD's. Other notable teams to lose included No. 10 South Carolina (a week after upsetting then No. 1 Alabama) losing at Kentucky 31-28, Hawaii def. No. 19 Nevada 27-21, Mississippi State def. No. 22 Florida 10-7 in Gainesville, San Diego State def. Air Force 27-25 and Washington def. No. 24 Oregon State 35-34 in 2OT with the Beavers going for the 2pt conversion to win the game that proved unsuccessful.

These results had HUGE ramifications in the first edition of the BCS Rankings which came out earlier today (which will be posted shortly).

In other results, Boise State, TCU and Utah all stayed undefeated with easy wins, Auburn won a shootout against Arkansas 65-43 and LSU stayed undefeated with a 32-10 win over McNeese State.
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Week 7: Results

Wisconsin def. #1 Ohio State 31-18
#3 Boise State def. San Jose State 48-0
#4 TCU def. BYU 31-3
Texas def. #5 Nebraska 20-13
#6 Oklahoma def. Iowa State 52-0
#7 Auburn def. #12 Arkansas 65-43
#8 Alabama def. Ole Miss 23-10
#9 LSU def. McNeese State 32-10
Kentucky def. #10 South Carolina 31-28
#11 Utah def. Wyoming 30-6
#13 Michigan State def. Illinois 26-6
#15 Iowa def. Michigan 38-28
#16 Florida State def. Boston College 24-19
#17 Arizona def. Washington State 24-7
Hawaii def. #19 Nevada 27-21
#20 Oklahoma State def. Texas Tech 34-17
#21 Missouri def. Texas A&M 30-9
Miss State def. #22 Florida 10-7
Washington def. #24 Oregon State 35-34 2OT

Notre Dame def. Western Michigan 44-20
USC def. Cal 48-14
Virginia Tech def. Wake Forest 52-21
Rutgers def. Army 23-20
Miami-FL def. Duke 28-13
Georgia def. Vanderbilt 43-0
Purude def. Minnesota 28-17
Clemson def. Maryland 31-7
Pittsburgh def. Syracuse 45-14
Indiana def. Arkansas State 36-34
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BCS Standings: Week 7 (Edition 1)

1. Oklahoma .9215
2. Oregon .8921
3. Boise State .8898
4. Auburn .8641
5. TCU .8573
6. LSU .8245
7. Michigan State .7628
8. Alabama .6654
9. Utah .6540
10. Ohio State .5726
11. Missouri .5491
12. Stanford .5374
13. Wisconsin .5335
14. Oklahoma State .5261
15. Iowa .4824
16. Nebraska .4295
17. Florida State .4267
18. Arizona .3807
19. Texas .2214
20. West Virginia .1812
21. South Carolina .1555
22. Kansas State .1422
23. Arkansas .1302
24. Mississippi State .1253
25. Virginia Tech .0658
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On the first edition of the 2010 BCS Rankings, I'm pretty satisfied with Oregon being ranked No. 2. I do think we should be No. 1 considering we are rated No. 1 on both the Harris and Coaches Poll, but the computers really did screw us over pretty bad. On the six computers, we ranged from 2-11 with an average of 8. How the computers think we're the eighth best team in the country is beyond me especially considering they have Missouri in front of us. Also, you can tell there is a SEC/Big 12 bias in the computers as Oklahoma, Missouri, Auburn and LSU all featured really high in the computers.

I really thought Boise State would be No. 1 with their wins over Virginia Tech and Oregon State although the Beavers losing at Washington certainly wouldn't have helped. One of Auburn or LSU will fall out of the top 10 come next week as they play each other in Auburn on Sunday too.

Anyway, I can almost guarantee one thing, come December 6, Oklahoma and Oregon won't be No. 1 and 2.
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Regional bias is a massive problem in the BSC. (Bullshit Conference)
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Kvltism wrote:
Regional bias is a massive problem in the BSC. (Bullshit Conference)

Definitely.
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#2 Oregon def. UCLA 60-13

What a performance from us this morning, simply too good. Too much talent, offense, speed everything. We were simply all over the Bruins from the get-go. Bruins QB Richard Brehaut threw an INT with their first drive of the game and things were down hill from then for them. For us, Darron Thomas just keeps on improving, going 22-31 and throwing for 308 yards and 3 TD's while LaMichael James continued to prove he can win this years Heisman Trophy running for 123 yards on 20 carries and 2 TD's. The TD and extra point we gave away in the 4th Quarter was the first points we'd given away in a 4th Q this season.

Next up is USC at the Coliseum in what is a massive, massive game. The Trojans might be 5-2, but they could easily have been 7-0 like the Ducks. The two games they've lost have been last second field goals against Washington and Stanford and they have the bye this week so will get the extra time to prepare for us. But we'll be ready for the Trojans, bring them on.
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Hope you were watching AFC. Grin

We put on a clinic this morning. They Ducks offense is simply a sight to behold. They take their snaps so quickly and so for the opposition defense it's so hard to get ready quickly for the next snap.
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What do you make of the new Pac-12's structure, Sparky?

North Division: Stanford, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.
South Division: UCLA, USC, Utah, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

Needless to say, I think it's going to be a very strong conference in future seasons.
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What do you make of the new Pac-12's structure, Sparky?

North Division: Stanford, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.
South Division: UCLA, USC, Utah, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

Needless to say, I think it's going to be a very strong conference in future seasons.

To be honest, I'm not a fan at all. I would have preferred it if it was 12 teams but have it like it is now, where you play everyone and the team leading after the 11 Conference games goes to the Rose Bowl. But apparently they're going to make a PAC-12 TV network and there will be a Championship Game as things brings plenty of $$$ and interest in the Conference so I guess it is a good thing. Utah coming on board is great for the Conference as they're a major program.
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a_F_c wrote:
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Hope you were watching AFC. 2010/11: College Football Thread - Page 6 575896

We put on a clinic this morning. They Ducks offense is simply a sight to behold. They take their snaps so quickly and so for the opposition defense it's so hard to get ready quickly for the next snap.

Haha yeah, I was 2010/11: College Football Thread - Page 6 134292.
Very, very impressive performance. Like you said the offense was moving so quickly and at times UCLA was at sixes and sevens trying to contain them.

Whats doing with the play cards though? Laughing
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