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PostSubject: Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade:   Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade: Icon_minitimeTue Nov 30, 2010 10:17 pm

No more footy this year and the end of another decade, so this seemed appropriate.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/image.cfm?c_id=80&gal_cid=80&gallery_id=115513#7217470

1-Tony Woodcock
2-Keven Mealamu
3-Carl Hayman
4-Ali Williams
5-Brad Thorn
6-Jerry Collins
7-Richie McCaw
8-Kieran Read
9-Justin Marshall
10-Dan Carter
11-Jonah Lomu
12-Ma’a Nonu
13-Tana Umaga
14-Doug Howlet
15-Mils Muliaina

A monster of a backline with Umaga, Nonu and Lomu all playing together.

Big call leaving out Cullen, but Cully’s knee problems at the end of his career were well documented so his reasoning makes sense.

Read is another big call given how new he is, but he's certainly been massive this year.

A bench was never selected, but I’d personally go with:

16-Somerville
17-Oliver
18-Jack
19-So’oialo
20-Weepu
21-Spencer
22-Sivivatu
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Some heavy bias to recent times in selecting Nonu and Read - if you're looking at the decade as a whole I'd go with So'oialo at 8 and Mauger at 12.

Marshall's another interesting one - IMO his better rugby was LAST decade and Byron Kelleher was a much stronger presence through THIS decade. Same with Cullen v Mils (MacDonald can GTFO - I still blame him more than anyone else for the QF loss in '07).

Howlett I agree with easily, Lomu I'm not so sure - again his best rugby was in the 90's and Rokocoko has been a bigger influence this decade on the left wing, some would argue Sivivatu too but I think roks has been bigger - his fall from grace in the last 2 years has blinded may people to that I think...

Brad Thorn's another big call - he's been huge these last couple of years, sure, but how long was Chris Jack in a 3-way battle for world's best lock with Matfield and Vickerman?

No arguments in the front row.

My 22 would've been:

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Keven Mealamu
3. Carl Hayman
4. Ali Williams
5. Chris Jack
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Rodney So'oialo
9. Byron Kelleher
10. Dan Carter
11. Josevata Rokocoko
12. Aaron Mauger
13. Tana Umaga
14. Doug Howlett
15. Mils Muliaina

16. Anton Oliver
17. Greg Sommerville
18. Brad Thorn
19. Kieran Read - (some other class loosies that never got a look in, i.e. Marty Holah)
20. Piri Weepu
21. Nick Evans / Carlos Spencer
22. Jonah Lomu / Sitiveni Sivivatu
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PostSubject: Re: Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade:   Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade: Icon_minitimeWed Dec 01, 2010 3:13 am

I would put Tana to 12 to make room for Conrad
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PostSubject: Re: Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade:   Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade: Icon_minitimeWed Dec 01, 2010 3:26 am

^ Agreed

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Anton Oliver
3. Carl Hayman
4. Ali Williams
5. Chris Jack
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Rodney So'oialo
9. Byron Kelleher
10. Dan Carter
11. Joe Rocokoco
12. Tana Umaga
13. Conrad Smith
14. Doug Howlett
15. Mils Muliaina

16. Keven Mealamu
17. Kees Meeuws
18. Brad Thorn
19. Marty Holah
20. Justin Marshall
21. Carlos Spencer
22. Ma'a Nonu

There's my 22.

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1-Tony Woodcock
2-Keven Mealamu
3-Carl Hayman
4-Chris Jack
5-Brad Thorn
6-Jerry Collins
7-Richie McCaw
8-Rodney So'oialo
9-Justin Marshall
10-Dan Carter
11-Jonah Lomu
12-Ma’a Nonu
13-Tana Umaga
14-Jo Rocokoco
15-Mils Muliaina
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look who's back Wink
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haha yeeeah bro.
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No Andrew Mehrtens?
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or Reuben Thorne?
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lol Reuben Thorne...

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PostSubject: Re: Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade:   Wynne Gray’s All Black team of the decade: Icon_minitimeThu Dec 16, 2010 10:16 pm

chrishbhs wrote:
I would put Tana to 12 to make room for Conrad

I dunno, that raises two questions for me.... has Smith been our best centre of the last decade? and was Tana a good enough 12 during that same period to keep out established 12's like Nonu, Mauger or even McAlister?

I'd have to say no to both.

Smithy has only been our starting centre the last 3 years and while he's clearly been huge, I dont think anyone can argue that Tana's influence as a player and captain during the decade makes him an automatic selection.

But as good a player as Tana was at 13, we've had a number of better 12's. I personally think Mauger was the pick of them but obviously Nonu lays a compelling case.

Leaving Smith out in favour of Umaga at 13 is a fairer reflection of their playing abilities than leaving out Mauger/Nonu in favour of Umaga at 12, IMO.


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Yeah I'd agree definitely - Mauger at 12 and Umaga at 13 is easily my pick.
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