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All Blacks World Cup squad

Forwards:
John Afoa, Anthony Boric, Corey Flynn, Ben Franks, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Jerome Kaino, Richie McCaw (capt), Keven Mealamu, Kieran Read, Adam Thomson, Brad Thorn, Victor Vito, Sam Whitelock, Ali Williams, Tony Woodcock.

Backs: Daniel Carter, Jimmy Cowan, Israel Dagg, Andy Ellis, Zac Guildford, Cory Jane, Richard Kahui, Mils Muliaina, Ma’a Nonu, Colin Slade, Conrad Smith, Isaia Toeava, Piri Weepu, Sonny Bill Williams.




I am very happy with this 30 man squad. Feel a bit sorry for Gear but reckon Zac deserves it more based on recent form. Only 2 changes I'd make and that's Hika Elliot in for Flynn and Alby Mathewson in for Ellis but they were never going to happen.

Bring it on!! Just under 17 days till kick off!!

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I would have probably picked Sitivini over Guildford or Toeva. For me, him and Jane would have been my two starting wingers (or Dagg over Sitivini if they were prepared to play him there)
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Other than that not too many complaints. Vito over Messam was really a horses for courses selection, but I think they made the right call there. And the only other thing I would have changed is included Crockett for Afoa.
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PostSubject: Re: The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC   The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC Icon_minitimeTue Aug 23, 2011 10:53 am

Toeava is ideal for a bench spot, most versatile player in NZ rugby.

I'd start Dagg over Mils, probably wouldn't even put Mils in the 22.

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It is going to be a HUGE call for Ted to drop Mils though.

On form you would have to pick Dagg if we were playing in the World Cup Final tommorow imo, but I just don't know if Ted would make that call.
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Na you're right. Mils will be at the back in the big games.

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If Dagg continues in this irresistable form though there will be some serious pressure on him to promote him.
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PostSubject: Re: The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC   The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC Icon_minitimeTue Aug 23, 2011 11:44 am

Hendo Maroon wrote:
Toeava is ideal for a bench spot, most versatile player in NZ rugby.

I'd start Dagg over Mils, probably wouldn't even put Mils in the 22.

Definitely and i think thats what got him selection.

I would have only made the 1 change. Gear in for Kahui. The rest im happy with, i think Ellis deserves his spot as does Vito imo. I watched Hoeata closely recently and liked how he played, him over Boric wouldnt be too bad either.
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PostSubject: Re: The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC   The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC Icon_minitimeTue Aug 23, 2011 12:51 pm

Afoa shouldn't be there. He may be ok around the field but is rubbish in the scrums. Also better to have cover for the unfit Woodcock as opposed to Owen Franks. Would rather see Donnelly in there over Ali Williams, just a shame he didn't get enough of a chance this year. Toeava showed in the weekend he still can't catch or hold onto the ball, would have rather had Sivi over him. Kahui can cover enough positions on the bench to not need Toeava or Sonny Bill there
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PostSubject: Re: The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC   The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC Icon_minitimeSun Aug 28, 2011 5:28 am

Having a cry that he's not getting game time - sorry $BW - as a specialist player, who is far inferior to the incumbent (and Super form means squat, Nonu's producing the goods at test level like $BW can only dream) he's useless in a top 22.
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PostSubject: Re: The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC   The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC Icon_minitimeTue Aug 30, 2011 5:56 am

cant believe this get rid of mils bandwagon going on.

did you guys not see mils try saving action to rip the ball and ground it? the TMO didnt but it was awesome and smacks of that 'never say die' attitude.

dagg's been playing really well this season but has had some dip in form, just before he got injured in super he was declining but has made an awesome comeback since

BUT

mils is proven class. class is permanent

anyway i'd change flynn in this team for basically anyone. rutledge and hika are better hookers but i would've opted for a specialist 7.
in retrospect gear for guildford (yeah 20/20 hindsight is great)
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PostSubject: Re: The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC   The 30 Man Squad That Will Win The 2011 RWC Icon_minitimeTue Aug 30, 2011 1:13 pm

Just saw Thompson will miss at least the 1st game and Read will be back for the last pool game at best.

Will leave us tight in the flanks with only McCaw, Kaino, Vito to share the load. Heard Whitelock will fill in at 6 for a game or 2.
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should've had a 7 specialist then richie could've moved to 8, yeah i'll get over it
whitelock had a good game as a 6, not as mobile as thompson but has a huge work rate and a very low error rate.
should be fine with Vito as long as he just plays his agressive game without trying to think too much
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