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PostSubject: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 9:31 am

Havent done one of these in a while and I am BORED!! So here it is,

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Bismark du Plessis
3. Tendai 'The Beast' Mtawarira
4. Paul O'Connell
5. Victor Matfield
6. Schalk Burger
7. Richie McCaw
8. Pierre Spies
9. Fourie Du Preez
10. Dan Carter (I know he's been injured for a while but he still deserves to be here)
11. C├ędric Heymans
12. Jean de Villiers
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. Bryan Habana
15. Mils Muliaina

16. John Smit
17. Gethin Jenkins
18. Bakkies Botha
19. George Smith
20. Harry Ellis
21. Matt Giteau
22. Lee Byrne

Unsure who to put in as Hooker considering John Smit is playing prop these days.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 9:33 am

Gits on the bench is really harsh imo.. Been the Aussies shineing light for so many years now and had a terrific super 14 campaign
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 9:37 am

But DC is a better fly half and de Villiers is a much better inside center. So the bench is as good as he could get.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 9:39 am

This is current yeh? (as in right now or....)
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 9:40 am

Well yea Current but as I said its only injury that's preventing DC from playing, I still consider him the best fly half in the world. It would be wrong to have a current world XV without DC in there.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 9:41 am

Wrong but not current as the title suggests
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:05 am

Giteau is'nt that good, Aussies over rate him. If he wasn't so versatile I would of put Stephen Jones or Ruan Pienaar on the bench.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:08 am

Hooker would be either bismark du plessis or Hore I reckon.

Honestly though - I think a CURRENT World XV should consist of people who have played in the last 2-3 weeks of tests - so no McCaw and now Carter.
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:10 am

Well in that case, I'd move George Smith to start at 7, and bring Juan Smith on to the bench to replace McCaw and bring Ruan Pienaar into 10 keeping Giteau on the bench.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:11 am

Hendo Maroon wrote:
Well in that case, I'd move George Smith to start at 7, and bring Juan Smith on to the bench to replace McCaw and bring Ruan Pienaar into 10 keeping Giteau on the bench.

Quite silly
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:12 am

If it's based on the last two/three weeks, plus the Super 14 season then James O'Connor deserves a spot in the team, same with Matt Giteau.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:13 am

Giteau I put in the squad because he is a solid fly half and inside center.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:16 am

Haha, Hendo - much as I detest Giteau, he frankly does deserve the top spot, Pienaar's lucky to make the starting XV after Morne Steyn's S14 form...even if he is the "Tiger Woods of World Rugby"...pfft...
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:18 am

I disagree, Pienaar is awesome, played great against the Lions over the weekend, and when he played he was great for the Sharks.

If we're basing it on the last 2 or 3 weeks (which I strongly disagree on) Pienaar should be there.

All Giteau has done is play an average game against Italy.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 11:16 am

yeah if its current O'connor should be in there somewhere!
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 11:19 am

O'Connor has nothing on Mils Muliaina or Lee Byrne or any player I named in that 22.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 11:25 am

Yeeaah i guess, but hes been in such good form.
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 pm

o'connor hasnt really proven anything yet. he's young and will be truly tested in the 3N. so far i reckon he's 50/50 to survive it

yes giteau is a good player but i can see hendo's point. he's got specialist pivots. giteau's a great bench player. i dont think he deserves to be starting in a world XV. definately for aus but hey they worse off than NZ are, they got quadeCooper and that other guy at NSW

disagree though, that with carter out i'd bring morne steyne.

definately bismak and hore as hooks. hore in the wet tight stuff (ooooooo sounds rude), bismark for a dry track in a loose game
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeTue Jun 23, 2009 12:33 am

You gotta remember that the Italy side is VERY mediocre - they can be talked up all you like but at the end of the day, they suck.

A fullback has proven nothing until he's played a strong game on the back foot, defending his heart out - that's the primary role of a fullback. Not taking final passes to score tries like a wannabe-wing like O'Connor did in the first game.
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeTue Jun 23, 2009 1:38 am

Cant believe O'Connor was even mentioned on this thread.

A whopping 15 caps for a piss poor S14 team, 10 minutes against a hung over Barbarians side and two matches against the mighty Italians - the perpetual doormats of the Six Nations.

Yep. Thats world class right theree.
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeTue Jun 23, 2009 2:00 am

I don't agree on Morne Steyn. Sure he had an outstanding Super 14 but he's yet to prove himself at test level, whereas Pienaar has. I would like to see Morne get a start in one of the lions test so we can really see how good he is.

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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeTue Jun 23, 2009 2:19 am

de Villiers is too much of a moron pussy dumb coach to play Steyn - he really is the worst thing to ever happen to the Boks...
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PostSubject: Re: Current World XV   Current World XV Icon_minitimeWed Jun 24, 2009 10:16 pm

piernaar i prefer as half back. hasnt really fizzed for me as a 1st5
francois steyne started wiht a lot of potential but instead has shown a lot of immaturity and lack of experience. could be a great player but needs to work on his accuracy and versatility
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