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SANZAR invites Argentina to join Tri Nations from 2012

SANZAR has extended a conditional invitation to Argentina to join the Tri Nations from 2012 to create a new 'Four Nations' Championship.

SANZAR stressed that conditions were attached to the invitation for the Union Argentina de Rugby (UAR) to join the Four Nations in 2012.

SANZAR conditions include Argentina securing the participation of their best players to play in the Four Nations and SANZAR, along with Argentina confirming the financial model that will apply.

The Australian Rugby Union has encouraged Argentina to continue the hard work required to meet the SANZAR conditions that would allow the Pumas entry.

"To have the Pumas... join with the three top-ranked international teams in world rugby will be exciting for fans, players, sponsors and broadcasters across our four countries and beyond," SANZAR chief executive Andy Marinos said in a statement.

It is a move that would increase the Southern Hemisphere competition from nine games (where each team currently plays the other two on three occasions) to 12 games where each country would play the other three twice (home and away).

SANZAR envisages that the Four Nations would be played over eight to nine weeks, with each country playing six matches. Australia, New Zealand and South Africa already play six games each in the Tri Nations.

"Argentina has shown commitment, passion and a work ethic to date that highlights their desire to have the Pumas playing at the highest level possible on a consistent basis," ARU managing director and chief executive John O’Neill said.

"Australia is excited by the possibility of having the Pumas in a Four Nations Championship.

"It is important therefore, with a conditional invitation on the table, for Argentina to keep moving forward and satisfying the necessary conditions.

"The Tri Nations is a wonderful competition, with the best players in the world taking part.

"We need to ensure the same integrity and quality of competition is guaranteed with a move to a Four Nations Championship, and Argentina understands that.

"Australia looks forward to Argentina making further progress in coming months."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26070621-23217,00.html

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Awesome idea, Argentina play an exciting form of rugby and proved last WC they could compete with the Tri-Nations sides.

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How good would that be maybe one day we could have our own 5 nations with Fiji or W. Samoa improving like the Puma's have in the past 20 years.
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I reckon a 5 nations that includes a Pacific Nations side, a team made up of Fiji, Tonga and Samoa. That would be awesome

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Bring England into it
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Bring England into it

haha is that some kind of joke?

Our game is struggling for excitement as is, England are so boring to watch and there is no way in hell England would leave the 6 Nations.

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Hendo Maroon wrote:
I reckon a 5 nations that includes a Pacific Nations side, a team made up of Fiji, Tonga and Samoa. That would be awesome

That was my First thought then i thought I'm not sure they get along With all there history's and stuff (I don't Know If there is or not)


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Hendo Maroon wrote:
Rozza wrote:
Bring England into it

haha is that some kind of joke?

Our game is struggling for excitement as is, England are so boring to watch and there is no way in hell England would leave the 6 Nations.

More competiton
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Rozza wrote:
Hendo Maroon wrote:
Rozza wrote:
Bring England into it

haha is that some kind of joke?

Our game is struggling for excitement as is, England are so boring to watch and there is no way in hell England would leave the 6 Nations.

More competiton

haha no way in hell that will ever happen. England are only good for a couple of games every 4 years anyway.

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Hendo Maroon wrote:
Rozza wrote:
Hendo Maroon wrote:
Rozza wrote:
Bring England into it

haha is that some kind of joke?

Our game is struggling for excitement as is, England are so boring to watch and there is no way in hell England would leave the 6 Nations.

More competiton

haha no way in hell that will ever happen. England are only good for a couple of games every 4 years anyway.

Would give the Kiwis a run for there money
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Rozza wrote:
Hendo Maroon wrote:
Rozza wrote:
Hendo Maroon wrote:
Rozza wrote:
Bring England into it

haha is that some kind of joke?

Our game is struggling for excitement as is, England are so boring to watch and there is no way in hell England would leave the 6 Nations.

More competiton

haha no way in hell that will ever happen. England are only good for a couple of games every 4 years anyway.

Would give the Kiwis a run for there money

I highly doubt they would.

The Northern Hemisphere teams have been competing in competitions (Home Nations, 5 Nations, 6 Nations) since 1883. There is no way that any of them would even consider joining our Tri-Nations competition.

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Where's FijiBati he Is needed to answer some Questions relating to how he feels about this Final Whistle led 5 nations idea.
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and theres the small matter about england being 24 hours plane flight away...Rolling Eyes idiot rozza Razz

bring the argies in that would be good, they play really exciting rugby and i think we need something to brighten up the 3Nations
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There are a few problems with a PI side:
- very difficult to build and maintain - in the past they have been more of a exhibition side like the Lions
- $$$ - with 4N money and players moving to the S14/15 - Argentina will be able to afford to top up player salaries so that it's not so financially damaging to them to stop playing in NH. PI countries won't be able to do that
- financial input - argentina can provide a large player and viewer-base which will provide more income to SANZAR (SANZAAR?) while PI won't...
- competition - lets face it, the PI side won't be much of a challenge...
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Good idea to brig argentina in, i liek there rugby.
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it's a really interesting concept, but another team would definately make the competition more interesting. The big question is whether the 07 world cup was just a fluke and whether they'll just be the whipping boys, like Italy
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Pantherus wrote:
There are a few problems with a PI side:
- very difficult to build and maintain - in the past they have been more of a exhibition side like the Lions
- $$$ - with 4N money and players moving to the S14/15 - Argentina will be able to afford to top up player salaries so that it's not so financially damaging to them to stop playing in NH. PI countries won't be able to do that
- financial input - argentina can provide a large player and viewer-base which will provide more income to SANZAR (SANZAAR?) while PI won't...
- competition - lets face it, the PI side won't be much of a challenge...

very good points i just think a 15 year plan should be tried though. Try and build the Pacific up for the Future (I Love The Western Samoa Front On Hits And Ofcourse The Fiji 7's Side are Awesome so the Building Blocks are there).
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mozza wrote:
it's a really interesting concept, but another team would definately make the competition more interesting. The big question is whether the 07 world cup was just a fluke and whether they'll just be the whipping boys, like Italy

fair point, theyre form since the WC has not been great at all. They have beaten played 7 tests since only picking up wins over Scotland and Italy, but two of their 5 losses were against Scotland and Italy too.

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